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Post by Arron on Feb 22, 2006 2:38:27 GMT 1
Wow! I'm so glad people are behind me on this one!
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Post by dozyjulia on Feb 22, 2006 4:17:24 GMT 1
>>Arron<< says: well neither do i, its the "social anthropology" students with time to campaign for stupid causes. oi! fuck off.
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Post by Arron on Feb 22, 2006 4:22:04 GMT 1
And you study what then? with how much time in uni? Also that was what the person that they interviewed in Student Direct was studying so its a valid statement no matter what you say.
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Post by dozyjulia on Feb 22, 2006 12:16:33 GMT 1
12 hours of contact time a week, but 3 of those are Spanish. I want to change course to English Lit though. Or Spanish. Or Linguistics. I'm sick of 'gender and kinship'. But it's not a dossy subject at all. You're probably thinking of Sociology (tee hee). Which is.
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Post by dozyjulia on Feb 22, 2006 12:16:56 GMT 1
Why, what do you do?
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Post by Ben on Feb 22, 2006 23:56:08 GMT 1
he's an aerospace engineer so you have no ground to stand on julia....
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Post by The Lost Leader on Feb 23, 2006 4:10:18 GMT 1
I have no problem with the uni supplying our armed forces. That's not the same as the uni attacking Iraq. To pick an obvious example, if it we had no arms (of the military variety), Hitler would have won. Students do campaign about completely crazy things. I can immediately think of the regular campaigns against medical research.
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Post by Arron on Feb 23, 2006 7:23:48 GMT 1
ok 12 hours isnt bad but as ben said, Im doing aerospace engineering, with 18 hours of "contact time" (20 starting week 6) I really dont know how much it'd be if I added in all the tutorial sheets (kind of reminds me I should do some of these ) and courseworks and stuff they expect us to read and know (but noone actually does either read or know it). I didnt actually know what hours Social Anthropology has but I do know what it is, and as i said above, the person that they interviewed in Student Direct who was campaigning was doing it.
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Post by Ben on Feb 23, 2006 18:28:23 GMT 1
Let's put it this way. I have 18 hours of contact time also, plus 4-5 hours designated per module, so that's another 28-35hours on top of what i do in uni, if i were to do it all. Do not say that art students have anywhere near as much to do as science students. I'd be on a 53 hour week were i to do everything i had to. Do you think i could do all that AND the indie society? You are more important to me than my degree. Remember that.
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Post by Arron on Feb 23, 2006 19:21:54 GMT 1
Sounds about the same. (apart from Ben spends all his spare time either a) playing pool, b) waiting to play pool or c) itbox)
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Post by Indie Committee on Feb 23, 2006 23:30:43 GMT 1
erm actually, although i have 15 contact hours a week at the moment, i'm expected to do 7 hours work for my seminars for each politics module per week, an hour for each of my 2 languages for homework, 3 hours on independent language learning and a further 2 for dossier work, as well as 4 hours reading for linguistics and 2 hours for teaching english as a foreign language. this alone adds up to 47 hours, and on top of this i'm recommended to be reading extra material, doing 'face to face' (meeting with a native speaker once a week) and keep on top of the news and current affairs. not only are my extra hours harder both academically (you try finding appropriate noteworthy material in a 600 page book in a couple of hours with no help except a vague idea from lecture notes) and mentally (it's so tempting not to do any reading at all, but you end up in the exam with no case studies or empirical evidence and it's basically crap so you really have to), but it's all stuff you have to think about rather than just learn. your head is full of theories and criticisms and case studies and there's no concrete answer which is quite hard to work with a lot of the time. i sometimes wish i'd done something like geography because at least there are some indisputable facts to learn and not so much 'well what about so and so's opinion' to mess things up.
ok, rant over.
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Post by dozyjulia on Feb 24, 2006 4:22:59 GMT 1
cheers, alex. i think it depends more on your actual degree than on stupid generalisations about arts vs sciences. double honours are always going to be harder aren't they? and ben, shut it, you're a 2nd year, what do you expect? arts subjects might be easier for some people, but other people might find them really hard. for example, random can't spell, i'm shite at maths...it varies. besides, doing a hard degree (and perhaps then doing it badly) isn't something to be proud of! it's your own fault for choosing maths/chemical engineering/astrophysics...don't then go and moan about it and say you're better than other people doing languages or humanities sorry, but i get a lot of 'let's slag off arts students' and i'm fed up with it...
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Post by Ben on Feb 25, 2006 14:44:20 GMT 1
it's the typical argument though! Stop taking it so seriously! It's like the north-south divide! Arts students hate science students and vice-versa. The point is we are MEANT to say this to encourage you to work harder and you're meant to say this so that we have more fun. Chuh. It's part of uni culture!
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Post by dozyjulia on Feb 26, 2006 14:45:24 GMT 1
nrreeeuggh.
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Post by Indie Committee on Feb 26, 2006 17:29:34 GMT 1
i don't hate science students; i hate the fact that many of them think arts students do doss degrees. it's just not the case.
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Post by Arron on Feb 26, 2006 17:32:09 GMT 1
Please dont think I do! I explained to Julia about this, and I never planned to start what this has become!
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Post by dozyjulia on Feb 26, 2006 17:49:27 GMT 1
arts students do tend to be tetchier about their subjects , but science students are smugger about theirs! still, don't worry arron, i understand what you meant.
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Post by Chris on Feb 26, 2006 20:34:26 GMT 1
But Julia, you only actually have about 9 hours of contact time anyway, quite a few of yr lectures are every other week! Just thought I'd say that.
oh yeah, and arts students all suck! But what about people who do Maths and English?
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Post by dozyjulia on Feb 26, 2006 20:46:02 GMT 1
no i have 12. 2 of my tutorials are fortnightly. none of my lectures are. and i have 3 hours of spanish classes. you're just...wrong.
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